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Khas

Which universes can Star Wars beat?

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And I were is the stock on this weapon? I doubt that you can hit somebody beyond 10 meters with this thing! http://www.originalprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/star-wars-a-new-hope-imperial-stormtrooper-blaster-e-11-sterling-original-prop-02.jpg (I know the answer but, I want you guys to figure it out.  ;) )

Funny how I never had an issue hitting a target dead center at 8-10 meters away with a laser pointer...

The advantage of not having any recoil when pressing the button on top I guess...

Oh wait, a Phaser also has no recoil...

 

And I disagree that a gun is easier to aim than a phaser...

I've actually aimed both, and have less trouble using the laser pointer...

Could it be because I used it more than a gun...

Wow, could training help aiming such a weapon, d'ya think?

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Well, a stock isn't just for reducing recoil from the weapon, it's also the help steady it when you aim.  I'm still a novice shooter but I definitely notice sway with my Mosin even I try to fire it unsupported or standing, I can only imagine how bad it would be if I 'hip fired' or didn't shoulder it (I'm still somewhat stupefied that someone thought it'd be a good idea to saw it down and turn it into a pistol).  Pistols of course are easier to hold because they're lighter, and I would imagine that a phaser would be even lighter than a conceal carry pistol (polymer or metal frame) being mostly plastic and circuitry rather than needing to be strong enough to not break when you pull the trigger.

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Tons of stuff, Trek except the near omnipotents, B5, Stargate. Everything is equal canon in Disney will reprint the holy tome. And then the tears will flow

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I'm impressed. Ladies and gentlemen, we've got our first ICS-troll since StarDestroyerAvenger right here!

Who said anything about ICS? Thrawn motherfucker. Disney canon .

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I assumed you meant "ICS" by "Holy Tome".  My mistake.

 

Thrawn, however, would be a challenge... provided he didn't see the Alpha Quadrant powers as potential allies for the Chiss Ascendancy against... whatever it is they're scared of in the Unknown Regions.  Combine Alpha Quadrant (Federation, Klingon, Romulan, etc) tech with Thrawn's brainpower... that's a fearsome combination right there.

 

But even without Thrawn, I agree that SW can beat B5.

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I assumed you meant "ICS" by "Holy Tome".  My mistake.

 

Thrawn, however, would be a challenge... provided he didn't see the Alpha Quadrant powers as potential allies for the Chiss Ascendancy against... whatever it is they're scared of in the Unknown Regions.  Combine Alpha Quadrant (Federation, Klingon, Romulan, etc) tech with Thrawn's brainpower... that's a fearsome combination right there.

 

But even without Thrawn, I agree that SW can beat B5.

Trek too, they don't have any real material advantages over SW beyond the NR 90% disarmament. The Empire has more ISDs than the alpha quadrant has ships

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True, but everything I've seen and read in the new canon has indicated that the ships the Empire does have are inferior to those of the Alpha Quadrant powers - to say nothing of what the Borg would be capable of, considering that Chakotay, who was linked up to a Borg cooperative, and thus, had some idea as to their numbers, stated that the Borg possess "millions of ships".

 

Then, there was the fact that the Borg Unicomplex, stated by Tuvok in "Dark Frontier" to be home to "trillions of life-forms", has a higher population than Coruscant, with its population of just over 1 trillion.  So yes, several Coruscants worth of Borg drones.

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Okay, so we have some info on weapons range - similar to the upper-end weapons ranges of ST.  That doesn't change the fact that the yields of the turbolasers are kinda pathetic.  And since we know via the "Thrawn" novel that turbolaser blasts lose a lot of energy when they enter an atmosphere unless fired low within the atmosphere, like that Imperial light cruiser in "Rebels", we also know that orbital bombardment of Earth-like worlds isn't as destructive in the old SW canon days - if it was, the Empire wouldn't have had to resort to poison gas to wipe out the Geonosians.

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On 6/15/2017 at 9:29 PM, Johan Snow said:
On 6/15/2017 at 7:18 PM, Khas said:

I assumed you meant "ICS" by "Holy Tome".  My mistake.

 

Thrawn, however, would be a challenge... provided he didn't see the Alpha Quadrant powers as potential allies for the Chiss Ascendancy against... whatever it is they're scared of in the Unknown Regions.  Combine Alpha Quadrant (Federation, Klingon, Romulan, etc) tech with Thrawn's brainpower... that's a fearsome combination right there.

 

But even without Thrawn, I agree that SW can beat B5.

Trek too, they don't have any real material advantages over SW beyond the NR 90% disarmament. The Empire has more ISDs than the alpha quadrant has ships

Please excuse any intrusion on my part but I was curious if you could elaborate. Specifically how are you calculating ship numbers respectfully? Perhaps I'm out of date but the most explicit reference I know of, before it was rendered non-canon, was the "twenty-five thousand" Star Destroyers line from "Specter of the Past".  Sorry if I'm just being ignorant here, but I am curious. 

-Respectfully, Commodore Krevin 

 

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I think he's using a statement in the new canon which says that the Empire has 25,000 ISDs at its disposal.  In any case, he's still wrong in saying that it has more ISDs than the Alpha Quadrant has ships.  As of Star Trek Online, the United Federation of Planets, Klingon Empire, and Romulan Republic each have about 15,000 starships at their disposal, IIRC.  The Dominion have about 30,000 ships at theirs.  And the Borg?  Millions.

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5 hours ago, Khas said:

I think he's using a statement in the new canon which says that the Empire has 25,000 ISDs at its disposal.  In any case, he's still wrong in saying that it has more ISDs than the Alpha Quadrant has ships.  As of Star Trek Online, the United Federation of Planets, Klingon Empire, and Romulan Republic each have about 15,000 starships at their disposal, IIRC.  The Dominion have about 30,000 ships at theirs.  And the Borg?  Millions.

Ah. Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. :)

 

Also, hi Khas! Its me, Sonofccn. 

-Respectfully, Commodore Krevin

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Well since I didn't see them mentioned, and apologies if I simply overlooked it, I'd tentatively suggest Mass Effect. The Empire would probably lose one on one, and on ground would lose in an utter curbstomp, but they could drown the Council Races in Imperial Star Destroyers plus any older Venators they haven't put into mothballs. Hyperdrive would also allow the Imperials more flexible deployment compared to the fixed relay network used by Mass Effect races.

 

My thoughts, at least.

 

-Respectfully, Commodore Krevin

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On ‎7‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 8:40 AM, Commodore Krevin said:

Well since I didn't see them mentioned, and apologies if I simply overlooked it, I'd tentatively suggest Mass Effect. The Empire would probably lose one on one, and on ground would lose in an utter curbstomp, but they could drown the Council Races in Imperial Star Destroyers plus any older Venators they haven't put into mothballs. Hyperdrive would also allow the Imperials more flexible deployment compared to the fixed relay network used by Mass Effect races.

 

My thoughts, at least.

 

-Respectfully, Commodore Krevin

I assume you're talking about the Empire vs. the Council races? The Reapers, IMO would make short work of the Empire.

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6 hours ago, Tyralak said:

I assume you're talking about the Empire vs. the Council races? The Reapers, IMO would make short work of the Empire.

I was primarily thinking of the Galactic Empire vs the Council Races, yes. Admittedly most of my knowledge of Mass Effect is second hand so please bear with me if that conclusion is off-kilter. 

I'm not disagreeing with you concerning the Reapers but, as someone again of limited knowledge of the verse, may I ask for you to elaborate on why you believe this?

-Respectfully, Commodore Krevin

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2 hours ago, Praeothmin said:

SW can beat ST with a Death Star, or if they throw all they have in one single all-out assault... leaving them open to retaliation by the Borg who would decimate what remains of their fleet... :p

Hey Praeo! Also good to see another face from StarfleetJedi. As for your argument:

Bah! The Empire will just unleash the furry horde of Ewoks whose primitive, kinetic based stone age weapons the Borg will have no hope of adapting too. XD

-Respectfully, Commodore Krevin

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